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MSNBC
Nov 9, 2012 10:00am EST
process. >> let me play a little more from chuck schumer talking about john boehner's position. >> boehner wants to compromise. that's why he gave that speech. he's not a hard right guy. he's a mainstream conservative. >> here's a suggestion in his column titled "let's not make a deal." mr. obama should hang tough declaring himself willing if necessary to hold his ground even at the cost of letting his opponents inflict damage on a shaky economy. stand your ground and don't give in to threats. no deal is better than a bad deal. ruth, who is going to blink? >> i hope it really doesn't get to that. paul krugman has a nobel prize in economics and i don't. but it doesn't all hit at once. but a lot of it hits and the damage to the sort of animal spirits of the economy, the confidence of business leaders in the economy, the confidence of other countries in our ability to get our economic fiscal house in order would be damaging. so no deal is a very bad deal for the united states. somebody is going to blink in the end. i hope it's actually both sides to some extent. but the argument t
MSNBC
Nov 9, 2012 11:00am EST
begins to work with house speaker john boehner on this? as you remember during the 2011 negotiations, they tried to get a grand bargain. a $4 trillion deficit reduction that would have included cuts to medicare and medicaid, but also some tax increases. ultimately that deal fell apart. there are some democrats that would like to see the president try to go big again in this second term. now the white house pardoned by some of the comments that john boehner made by saying that he's willing to come to the table to talk to the president about that. as you pointed out, he said that does not include tax increases for the wealthy. but i have been talking to some of my republican sources on the hill who say the speaker's language is important. it suggests a potential willingness to work with the president on the issue of taxes, which is of course the big sticking point. what does that mean? we don't know. it could mean eliminating deductions for big corporations for the wealthiest americans. those are the details that will have to be hammered out. but that report by the congressional budget
MSNBC
Nov 8, 2012 11:00am EST
washington. >> i think the good news for the country is that john boehner and his president actually have a pretty good relationship. they like each other. that's a really good starting point. it's something you don't see in washington these days. and all you see between democrats and republicans is acrimony. i think boehner set a great signal yesterday. i think the person who called boehner yesterday and said let's get back to work is a big deal. >> i want to ask you. do the american voters really get the attention of the gop now? do they send a clear message that misogynistic, bigoted, homophobic candidate es just dot fly. how do they get the party back on track? >> losing does a lot more parties, and spending time in the desert does a lot toward figuring out how to get to water. the republican party obviously has a lot of work to do, but i'm encouraged they will get the message, that we understand we've got to be a larger tent. we can't continue to just go after a shrinking -- trying to expand a shrinking demographic and recognize we need more tolerance, more diversity, a
MSNBC
Nov 9, 2012 1:00pm EST
number. if you're john boehner in the press conference he had, one of his lines was, i think we have a lot of work to do as it relates to the republican party. the republican party is trying to figure out what happened and i don't know if in the midst of a what happened self-examination you really want to go into a huge political fight with the consequences you've just outlined with the president of the united states. >> mark halperin, do you agree that the president has the leverage right now and all the signals from john boehner are that first of all, be he wants to make a deal, perhaps returning to the bargain that was left on the table, and that this time he has the support of eric cantor and others, not all of the conservatives, the fiscal hawks in the house caucus, but of the leadership. >> i think all the movement since the elections towards a deal as chris said in part because the president's win was bigger than people thought in part because the balance of power in the senate coming up. the big questions, who will the democratic minority leader be in the house, how much defi
MSNBC
Nov 8, 2012 9:00pm EST
to call john boehner and mitch mcconnell but he was told they were asleep, quote after his speech, mr. obama tried to call both mr. boehner and the senate republican leader, mr. mcconnell but was told they were asleep. i realized it was late night and everything but if the president calls you and you are asleep, do you not get woken up? isn't that sort of a standing order? one of the things we can all agree on the sort of thing you get out of bed for? the presidents an on the phone, okay, i'll wake up and take the phone no matter who you are? no. john boehner and mitch mcconnell were still asleep and no woke them up. since then, they have made statements about what they see happening in this next year, indicating that maybe they also slept through the part of the night when the results of the election came in. mr. mcconnell put out a statement what's clear about this election is that the voters have not endorsed president obama's first term. the fact that the president won the election is not an endorsement of the president? filling in a little bubble next to the man's name on a piece
MSNBC
Nov 8, 2012 10:00am EST
of the house john boehner opened the door yesterday to getting the deal done and striking a more conciliatory tone. >> mr. president, this is your moment. we're ready to be led, not as democrats or republicans, but as americans. we want you to lead, not as a liberal or a conservative, but as president of the united states of america. we want you to succeed. let's challenge ourselves to find the common ground that has eluded us. let's rise above the dysfunction and do the right thing together for our country. >> meantime, senate majority leader harry reid said he is open to working together too, but there was a but. >> i'm going to do everything within my power to be as conciliatory as possible. i want to work together. but i want everyone to also understand you can't push us around. we want to work together. >> let me bring in legendary investigative journalist carl bernstein and political reporter for "the washington post" nia ma malika henderson. good morning to you. everybody is sounding cordial, but we still have the same players. has anything changed, carl? >> i think this i
MSNBC
Nov 13, 2012 4:00pm EST
. >> maybe yours. everybody is saying, look, john boehner has talked about the possible of raising revenues, he looks really reasonable now. he hasn't said no. the big question is, we've talked about this since the election, you and i and others, that what's at stake here is whether boehner can actually cut a deal and still remain speaker of the house. that is there isn't a mutiny, there isn't an opening on the right for a rebellion against him. he could not do that last time around in the summer of 2011 when the president tried to reach this grand bargain with him. it was clear to people working with him and in the room, democrats and members of the administration, that he himself would have cut that deal and would have, you know, walked away and held the president's hand and said look what we can do when we're adults in washington. but he was told by members of his own party, if you do that, our speakership is done for. so the question is after this election, does he have any more leverage, any more leeway having suffered the loss? >> and the answer to that question is? >> joy ju
MSNBC
Nov 8, 2012 3:00pm EST
as charged. >> a con ciliary tone there. what struck me yesterday with john boehner he was saying as we approach the fiscal cliff, boehner was saying yesterday that the bottom line for republicans after this election is the same as it's been for 22 years. that is, that any kind of income tax hike, especially for the wealthy, is off the table for them. do you have a sense of what the white house is thinking is on the table? we approach january 1st. is it that they are really eager mainly to strike a grand bargain they can sell as a major bipartisan achievement? is the idea of fighting past january 1st if necessary to get rid of the bush tax cuts for the wealthy americans more of a priority for them? >> no. i think they want a deal if they can get it. you're right to listen closely to john boehner, because what he had is he'll accept some revenues in the context of tax reform, a big, wonderful, fuzzy nebulous idea. what he won't expect initially is a change in the rates. of course, that's what it's about. it's about the rates for the highest income earners. and that's where john boehne
MSNBC
Nov 8, 2012 2:00pm EST
resolve this. i would point out that house speaker john boehner in his press conference yesterday echoed the president's sentiments to some extent saying he's willing to work with the president on the issue of taxes. that's the big issue here in washington. so signalling that he would be willing to work with the president. now, will this actually happen? of course, the republican conference is larger than the house, so speaker boehner is saying something in his conference going along with it are two different things. they're in a wait and see mode. we won't see the crisis of debt debate in the summer of 2011. >> i hope you're right. nationally syndicated host and msnbc contributor michael sikonis, and a.b. stott dard, social editor for the hill paper as well as the huffington post. sam stein with us. sam, let's start off with you. speaker boehner says he's open to tax revenue, also spending cuts. similar to the speaker boehner before some of the house republicans got ahold of him, and he basically pulled back on a deal struck with the president. >> yeah. i mean, this is a complicated thi
MSNBC
Nov 8, 2012 8:00pm EST
chicago, and house speaker john boehner was already hinting at another major fight in congress over taxes and spending. >> in order to garner republican support for new revenues, the president must be willing to reduce spending and shore up entitlement programs that are the primary drivers. mr. president, this is your moment. we're ready to be led, not as democrats or republicans, but as americans. >> president obama will make a statement tomorrow in the east room. the automatic spending cuts and tax hikes kicked in january 1st if washington can't reach a deal. a lot of people fear it's going to be a repeat of what happened in 2011 when the republicans 4e8d the debt ceiling hostage to get what they wanted. but thing, i guess, you could say are a bit different. we are two days removed from a landslide victory, as well as a new 55-45 democratic senate majority. the president is also the winner of the popular vote. did you hear that, republicans? winner of the popular vote with the majority of the country supporting him. the only area in government where the democrats fell shot was in the co
MSNBC
Nov 9, 2012 9:00am EST
? >> yes. the reason is we can't afford it. it will cost us a trillion dlz. >> last night john boehner laid out his opening offer. >> i've made it clear to the president and i think i laid out yesterday that raising taxes on small businesspeople is the wrong prescription given where our economy is. raising tax rates is unacceptable and, frankly, it couldn't even pass the house. i'm not sure it could pass the senate. >> he youed an important word though, raising tax rates. apparently he is open to some tax increases in it comes in the form of increased revenue. in many ways they are simply starting where they left off a year ago and debt ceiling federal governme negotiations. the question is how many house republicans is boehner willing to lose? the white house believes that after the election they have a stronger hand. after not just winning re-election but increasing their senate majority. on thursday, boehner did sound a lot more conciliatory. >> i remain optimistic that we're going to be able to find common ground. tim most reasonable, responsible person here in washington. the president
MSNBC
Nov 16, 2012 9:00am EST
obama may show those quotes of john boehner and eric cantor. >> haley barbour on taxes, and this is from the republican governors association meeting in la las vegas. quote, if there's enough savings, if there's enough certainty about tax reform the next few years, i would, former governor haley barbour said when asked whether his party should consider softening its opposition to letting the bush tax cuts on the wealthiest expire. i mean, that's just an amazing, amazing, amazing switch from where we even were on the campaign trail last week. >> well, that's right, luke. and also governor bob mcdonnell said something else. elections have consequences and that, of course, was a line republicans used in 2011 during the debt ceiling negotiations as well as all of the other times they were actually trying to trim the budget deficit saying, look, this is why we were elected in 2010 to come and do this. now president obama has that same argument in 2012. look, the presidential contest was fought on the contours of raising taxes on the wealthy. i won. now it's time to negotiate. >> the romn
MSNBC
Nov 9, 2012 5:00pm EST
all revenue measures have to originate in the house. john boehner talked about the looming fiscal cliff and like the president he also hinted at room for compromise. you have to listen carefully to see the compromise that could be coming. >> it's clear that there are a lot of special interest loopholes in the tax code, both corporate and personal. it's also clear that there are all kinds of deductions, some of which make cents. others don't. everything, everything on the revenue side and on the spending side has to be looked at. >> senator chuck schumer in new york this morning on msnbc suggested that the right wing might be more willing to accept compromise now. he's being hopeful. let's watch. >> boehner wants to compromise. that's why he gave that speech. you know, boehner is not a hard right guy. he's a incompetent mainstream conservative and i think it's going to work because the hard right a chastened in a lot of ways. >> here is a republican who may not be quite in on what happens happening after the election, jeff duncan. when i look at the results of the election congress
MSNBC
Nov 12, 2012 8:00pm EST
is a different story. john boehner doesn't have the leverage he used to have. on a conference call he told house republicans they had to avoid the nasty showdowns that mark so much of the last two years. senate republican leader mitch mcconnell was the number one obstructionist in the president's first term. now he tells "the wall street journal" he'll do whatever it takes to get a deal. i'd be willing to pay the ransom if e we thought we were going to get the hostage out. but the hostage is what? entitlement spending. mcconnell's intention, he's willing to agree to a dollar of new taxes for every dollar in cuts. what a difference an election makes. >> i'm going to ask a question on the stage. they seau had a real spending cuts deal, 10 to 1. spending cuts to tax inkrecreas. spooker, you're already shaking your head. but who on this stage would walk away from that deal? would you raise your hand about not raising taxes. >> remember in 2011 republicans would not take a 10 to 1 tax cut deal? now today mitch mcconnell is willing to do a 1 to 1 deal. republicans lost all of their lever
MSNBC
Nov 9, 2012 5:30am EST
shrink to 5.5%, but not until 2018. house speaker john boehner yesterday remained steadfast in his position on raising taxes. >> i remain optimistic we're going to be able to find common ground avoid this fiscal cliff and find a way to work together. >> by when? january 1st? >> i would hope so. >> the president is talking about specific increases. he campaigned on specific increases and tax rates from 35% to 39% for those making more than $250,000. so is that on the table right now? >> raising taxes on small business people is the wrong prescription given where our economy is. >> is it on the table to talk about? >> i made clear -- >> to have the wealthier americans pitch in. >> -- that raising tax rates is unacceptable. frankly, it couldn't pass the house. >> you will talk about it even if it's the wrong approach. >> of course we'll talk about it. we'll talk about all kinds of things we may disagree on. i'm the most reasonable, responsible here in washington. the president knows this. he knows that he and i can work together. the election is over. now it's time to get to work. >>
MSNBC
Nov 12, 2012 2:00am EST
wealthier americans? >> i think they already agreed to that. i think you heard john boehner say that already. we've had votes in the senate where we've actually gotten rid of tax credits. i think that's a given. and i think the vast majority of americans agree with that. the question is how do you do that and how do you allow taxes to rise at the same time you fix the real problem? and the real problem is uncontrolled entitlement spending and a government that has grown massively. not just under this administration, under republican administration. >> let me turn to senator schumer on this point. >> so you have to approach both sides of it. >> let me turn to senator schumer. i'm going to ask you the same question. if the mandate is compromised, what do democrats have to be prepared to accept as a painful outcome in order to achieve compromise? >> well, i agree with you, the mandate is compromise. that's why we have a divided house and senate. and i think if the house stands for anything it's cut government spending, as tom coburn said, and i think we're going to have to do more of it
MSNBC
Nov 16, 2012 3:00pm EST
. the most interesting thing, though, from the boehner aide was that john boehner believes there is not enough time from now until the end of the year to actually have a grand bargain. there's enough time, though, to put together the framework for what a grand bargain would look like. essentially have the top lines agreed to that by sometime in 2013 you could have both the chambers, the senate and the house, come together on some substantial tax reform, entitlement reform, and get rid of the sort of automatic cuts that we see as a sequester, and the tax increases and have a mechanism you can replace them with. listen to the congressional leaders in their photo op in the white house before thanksgiving that they had today. >> we've put revenue on the table, as long as it's accompanied by significant spending cuts. >> we have a cornerstones of being able to work something out. we're both going to have to give up some of the things that we know are a problem. >> we should have a goal in terms of how much deficit reduction. we should have a deadline before christmas. >> we fully underst
MSNBC
Nov 12, 2012 9:00am EST
to consider higher tax rates. timing is also a sticking point here. here is john boehner this weekend. >> 2013 should be the year to begin to solve our debt through tax reform and entitlement reform. together we should avert the fiscal cliff in a manner that ensures 2013 finally is that year. >> no accident, by the way, it was boehner who did the republican response to the president this weekend. the president holds the most leverage in the next two months, directly after the election and before tax rates expire. when the threat of a tax increase on the middle class hangs over the negotiations. republicans would like to try out the negotiations to see the political climate is better for them in the next congress. the big question is how much did the white house learn from the failed debt talk to 2011? will the president bypass leader ship and begin to try to deal directly with the republican senators who have sounded the most open to compromise. >> i think there is a deal. the ying and yang of this is we know there have to be revenues. look, i haven't met a wealthy republican
MSNBC
Nov 16, 2012 10:00am EST
house. speaker john boehner and house minority leader nancy pelosi will be there and others at any moment to talk about the fiscal cliff. the president spoke to labor leaders and business executives earlier in the week. it's a busy day in washington, d.c. we'll have more on all of this we'll have more on all of this coming up. diarrhea, gas, bloating? yeah. one phillips' colon health probiotic cap each day helps defend against these digestive issues with three strains of good bacteria. approved! [ phillips' lady ] live the regular life. phillips'. i've got a nice long life ahead. big plans. so when i found out medicare doesn't pay all my medical expenses, i got a medicare supplement insurance plan. [ male announcer ] if you're eligible for medicare, you may know it only covers about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. call and find out about an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like all standardized medicare supplement plans, it could save you thousands in out-of-pocket costs. call now to request your fre
MSNBC
Nov 14, 2012 4:00pm EST
planet republican, john boehner was just re-elected to the speakership. he seems to think with his re-election comes the bigger mandate. is he serious? does he even have a mandate among hits own house republicans? >> i'm sure the voters of john boehner's district near cincinnati, ohio, do -- have given him a mandate to do exactly what he's doing. but he needs to represented the entire country when he's speaker of the house. >> oh, yes. cue remind him of that? >> there has to be a little bit of a game going on after the election. as both sides lay out their positions here. the president, i think, was doing some justifiable chest-thumping today saying, look, guys, i won this election last week. he's not budging on his position. it appears, as a matter of policy, the republicans are at least showing some indication to move, even while attempting to rhetorically deny the president this mandate. >> that's a contortion. paul ryan is leading the charge. here he is about his own shellacking. >> you don't think there's a mandate? >> i don't, because they would have put nancy pelosi in charge o
MSNBC
Nov 10, 2012 6:00am EST
policy wonk. >> oh, i wouldn't think so. john boehner laughing in the face of the idea that the leader of the republican party from here on out might be paul ryan. that guy? the republican party picking its new face, its new leader after their electoral disaster. that's going to be an amazing thing to watch. over the next few weeks, months, years. i mean, here's just a case in point. it was an overall electoral disaster for republicans to lose the presidency. it was thought to be impossible for them to lose the presidency. nobody since the great depression has ever been re-elected as president with an unemployment rate like the one we've got now. but barack obama managed to do it. or the republicans managed to blow it depending how you look at it. just take as a case in point. the tremendous republican disaster in the united states senate. i mean, they had a bad night on tuesday night. but in the senate, it was a sure bet that the republicans were supposed to retake control of the senate this year. a sure bet. they were only defending ten seats and the democrats were defending 2
MSNBC
Nov 15, 2012 1:00am EST
and john boehner responded. >> the senate has already passed a law like this. democrats in the house are ready to pass a law like this and i hope republicans in the house come on board, too. we should not hold the middle class hostage while we debate tax cuts for the wealthy. >> i think in stead of the house moving on the senate bill, the senate ought to move on the house bill. >> so the debate has been engaged. it's going to be an interesting conversation on friday to get it started. >> that's right. he'll have the senate leaders and house leaders over to talk about this. one of the things that was so clear from that press conference was that the president is saying let's move this forward, let's move this forward now. he is certainly realizing that when you look at the four years that he has ahead of him, really it about the next 18 months to two years. that's when he has a mandate that, when he has political capital to spend. quickly he also wants to forestall some of these tax hikes that could come as early as january. john boehner initially said, listen, president, it's time fur
MSNBC
Nov 9, 2012 1:00am EST
think that john boehner is a traitor to a noble cause. >> the night of the election, we are the fire wall. we are the last stand. there would be no tax increases that is out the window now. they are making a huge error if they think that demography did them in. they didn't get their base out. this is not insignificant. >> i felt there wasn't enough of you in our opening video. that is why i need you here as a guest tonight. >> i will hog the camera for a long as you like. >> the camera loves you. that is why you are in there every night. >> rush is in a panic. he feels there is going to be more bite on his $50 million he takes home every year. >> this fiscal cliff thing, he can talk all he wants, but those rates go up if they do nothing. >> they don't have many cards to play. poor john boehner who has the worst job is forced to do this fan dance. the day after the election is intimate that is they can come to the table and strike a bargain but has to shuffle back and keep him in the house and whipped by the gop which is to say say, chastised that this may be tax increased i am o
MSNBC
Nov 12, 2012 5:30am EST
republican party is going to fall on its sword to defend a bunch of millionaires? >> speaker john boehner on friday, appeared to give a little ground, suggesting that limits on tax deductions could be part of a deal, something that senior obama adviser, david axelrod, said was a step in the right direction. >> i think the speaker's comments have been encouraging. and obviously, there's money to be gained by closing some of these loopholes and applying them to deficit reduction. so, i think there's a lot of ways to skin this cat, so long as everybody comes with a positive, constructive attitude toward the task. >> axelrod also pointed out that exit polling from the election showed 60% of the american agreed with raising taxes on the highest earners. >>> there's a renewed focus on immigration policy, following a presidential election that saw a growing divide between republicans and the hispanic community. now, two senators on opposite sides of the aisle says they're confident they can push through reform. chuck schumer and lindsey graham are revisiting a plan they proposed together
MSNBC
Nov 8, 2012 5:00pm EST
chosen him to lead another four years, and now will the republicans -- here's what john boehner told abc news when asked whether he's planning to try to repeal president obama's health care reform law, he says -- the election changes that. obama-care is the law of the land. powerful. joy reed and john nichols, washington bureau chief for "the nation." both are msnbc contributors, thank god. i mean it, joy. >> thank you. >>> i want to talk about this. you and i have jabbered band and forth for weeks. luckily ought that negative stuff seemed to have very little impact negatively. it may have inspired some people to get out and vote. i heard that from a number of people, including our reverend al sharpton. and people had a registration impulse or push. will we still see birthers, people in the congress saying this guy is not president? >> you know what, chris, we have talked a lot about this. i think unfortunately. obviously the intellectuals in the republican party can parse it, they realize they lost, they accept it. the people like steve schmidt that do this for a living, they even u
MSNBC
Nov 9, 2012 12:00pm EST
from the trail. house speaker john boehner is doing the dance of the seven veils. ♪ >> a day after the president's re-election, the speaker of the house opened the door to additional tax revenues. >> we're willing to accept new revenue under the right conditions. >> but after that telling peekaboo, boehner pulled back, announcing tax increases are not an option. >> raising tax rates is unacceptable. >> raising tax rates will slow down our ability to create the jobs that everyone says they want. >> last night, he revealed to diane sawyer that his party was no longer seeking to repeal the affordable care act. >> well, i think the election changes that. it's pretty clear that the president was elected, obama care is the law of the land. >> but you won't be spending the time next year trying to repeal obama care. >> there may be parts of it that we believe need to be changed. we may do that. no decisions at this point. >> but hours after that interview, boehner shrouded himself once again tweeting, obama care is law of the land but it is raising costs and threatening jobs. our goal has bee
MSNBC
Nov 14, 2012 12:00pm EST
raise than just closing loopholes. that is a reputation of what john boehner suggested in the days since the president has been re-elected. >> that's totally right. a key point, the simpson-bowles tax idea is kind of a magic pony, right. everyone agrees in the ab instruct, we can bring down the rates, close loopholes and deductions and raise revenue. if that's such a wonderful idea how come it's only come up now. how come no one has done it. the reason is because it's really, really hard politically. once you get into the specifics. if you're trying to tie all the revenue to this abstract tax reform idea you're going to get into a position where the revenue is about never going to happen because once you get into reality it doesn't materialize. >> you have to do both, john. you have to do -- you have to raise the the rates and close loopholes to get the amount -- >> just raise the rates. >> you can't raise the rates high enough to produce $1.6 trillion. >> you can get $900 billion from expiring the bush tax cuts. >> and where do you get the other $700 billion from from. >> do a lit
MSNBC
Nov 16, 2012 3:00am EST
serious. it's a joke. a joke. >> house speaker john boehner has been far milder in this rhetoric. according to politico, some house republicans might consider a tax hike on millionaires. many republican lawmakers privately concede that the 2012 election left them far short of a mandate on taxes. and if urged by democrats to raise rates on the megawealthy, they will have a tough time resisting. for the record, president obama's position sounds much more in line with senator sanders' way of thinking. >> there are some tough things that have to be done, but there's a way of doing this that does not hurt middle class families, that does not hurt our seniors, doesn't hurt families with disabled kids. >> let's bring in ruth conif, political editor for the progressive magazine. also with us tonight, e.j. dionne, msnbc contributor, "washington post" columnist and author of the book "our divided political heart." great to have both of you with us tonight. ruth, you first. you know, this could set up to be a moment of real disappointment for liberals if the democrats can't close the deal.
MSNBC
Nov 14, 2012 9:00pm EST
fighting for the top jobs. that's going to stay john boehner. they're actually fighting for the number four job in the house. the contest was tom price against one of the precious few republican women in the house, cathy mcmorris rodgers. and there were some interesting politics at work here. miss mcmorris rodgers had the support of speaker john boehner, but tom price had the support of this guy, the republican party's vice presidential nominee, paul ryan. in the end, it was cathy mcmorris rodgers who won. paul ryan's guy lost. and so even as they lose the presidency, thanks to a devastating gender gap in the polls, and at the same time they send even fewer republican women to congress than were there before, republicans did today pick for this small, low-profile national republican number four leadership role an actual woman. and that's the best they've ever done. that's the highest ranking gop woman there has ever been in the house. back over on the senate side, republicans are faced with a dilemma set up for them by john mccain, as i was just discussing with bill burton. john mccain
MSNBC
Nov 15, 2012 4:00pm EST
. ultimately the voters have to persuade them. i think john boehner and a few others in the republican party have got to tell eric cantor and paul ryan and michele bachmann and a lot of the tea partiers in that party, if you continue to insist that taxes are not going to be increased on the rich, we are not going to ever gain or regain control of the senate. we're going to lose control of the house in 2014, 2016. we're going to become a permanent minority party because it makes no sense to most americans. >> hit them where it hurts. professor robert reich, thank you. >>> next, how far will the president go in the showdown against john mccain. >>> but first, hampton pearson has the cnbc market wrap. good afternoon. >> good afternoon. we saw stocks move lower again on more wall street fears of going over the fiscal cliff. the dow losing 28 points, the s&p down 2, the nasdaq closing down 9 points. that's it from cbs, first in business worldwide. [ male announcer ] this is steve. he loves risk. but whether he's climbing everest, scuba diving the great barrier reef with sharks, or jumping i
MSNBC
Nov 13, 2012 1:00am EST
call with house republicans a day after the general election, john boehner said they would continue to staunchly oppose tax rate increases, but on sunday. bill kristolly to republican house members it's not just them versus the president, it's them versus history. >> i think republicans will have to give in much more than they think. four presidents in the last election vo won 50% of the vote twice. roosevelt, eisenhower, reagan, and obama. republicans in the house will be able to get some concessions, but i think there will be a big budget deal next year, and it will be much moran obama budget deal than paul ryan budget deal. elections have consequences. karen capehart, did you expect anything this big this fast? bill kristol is influential with republicans in washington. i'm stunned with what i'm hearing? >> i almost fell out of my chair when boehner said revenues. the idea of increasing revenues. that's a central argument that we have been having over the last four years, and the very expensive i told you so i guess. if we're going to get to this problem, we have to deal with revenu
MSNBC
Nov 12, 2012 10:00am EST
somebody like john boehner is going to be working toward a deal. and then there's the other side, the more tea party republicans who aren't going to want to accept this, who aren't going to be okay with raising taxes on anyone. and so i think we are going to see a little bit of a fight here. that said, they don't want to be the ones that cause the country to go over the cliff. it's going to be an interesting couple of weeks. >> i think fewer people are more representative of the other side. does grover norquist have any clout? >> he has some. can he stop a short-term deal from being done? it's the desire to never cut a dime from the defense or the military budget. i think the question will be -- we will see a deal, will it be another short-term deal that kind of exchanges the stopping of the sequestration cuts of the military spending increases in favor of something like lifting the cap off social security taxes or adding some taxes to the wealthiest families in addition to the ones that are already going to take effect january 1st? will it be not six-month deal, 12-month deal? and th
MSNBC
Nov 16, 2012 4:00am EST
has been shot down by the republican speaker of the house, john boehner, by john mccain's own bff in the senate, joe lieberman, he also disagrees with mr. mccain on this. same goes for susan collins of maine who did go to the classified briefing yesterday and noted publicly that john mccain was not there. even though it was his committee. mccain's special investigation idea was also shot down today by republican senator richard burr who said, quote, i think you've got to allow the structure we have of oversight to function and i think the intelligence committee is more than capable of handling this. in other words, the senate is getting information so maybe we should, you know, get information instead of continuing to scream on tv about not getting information. here's how you know when somebody is being disingenuous. when they demand something and then you give them that thing that they just keep demanding about and they pretend that you're not giving it to them and they just keep making the demand anyway as if it hasn't been met. john mccain obviously sees some advantage somewher
MSNBC
Nov 10, 2012 2:00pm EST
, you had a one on one with john boehner. we'll be seeing him again on monday. it sounds at least like his tone is definitely changed. take a listen. >> i remain optimistic that we'll be able to find common ground. i'm the most reasonable and responsible person here in washington. the president knows this. he knows that he and i can work together. the election is over. >> did you know that john boehner was the most reasonable person in washington? did you know that? >> no. you said that to me last week. he is sort of the adult in the room in a lot of cases. consider the fact that the members of congress who are freshman and sophomores in their first two terms, the highest number since world war ii, we've got all of these new people coming to washington who don't know how the town works, how the legislating process works and everybody sort of wants to fix everything right away and they wanted to fix it on their own terms. john boehner has been around for a long time and sort of knows how these deals work, how to stitch together these things. at the end of the day, that's what ends up ha
MSNBC
Nov 15, 2012 2:00am EST
least for now rhetorically gave them room to work. >> john boehner is listening to the future, he's listening to his party -- >> reporter: they want a deal. >> they want a deal. do you think the republicans are listening to the brains out like this like kristol and other thinkers, do you think they're willing to say we've been to prejudice to the rich. this is one of the areas they will say you won the battle. we won't keep fighting for the rich. >> reporter: here's what i can tell you. when you talk to leadership and do reporting on that, they want a deal. they're ready for a deal. and they're not that far off. the problem is, can you find a minimum -- let's just say a minimum of 35 house republicans who can commit themselves to voting for a raise of tax rates. it would be and could be primary suicide for those 35 republicans. because we know these gerrymander districts. this is not about swing districts anymore. that's the problem boehner had. if boehner had 35 safe republicans, safe from a primary challenge, safe from somebody from the right on taxes, i think this deal would have
MSNBC
Nov 8, 2012 2:00am EST
representatives. >> what's that mean? >> well, that means we're starting from square one, apparently. john boehner today, he wants to not have any grand bargain before the end of the year. wants to do this -- they're just buying time. it will be interesting -- i'll be curious to see how the white house now reacts. you've got boehner and mcconnell, boehner is playing good cop, seems more conciliatory. mcconnell less so. mcconnell has a political squeeze happening on him because he's up for re-election in 2014. two things he's worried about. one is a primary challenge. two, ben chandler, great grandson of happy chandler, long time kentucky democratic name lost. suddenly doesn't have a house seat anymore. he might be looking for something to run for in 2014. >> how about ashley judd? >> well, i've heard the ashley judd rumor. i've also heard her running for governor of tennessee, which democrats are trying to get her to run for. i think ashley judd wants to run for office. that's a serious piece of speculation that's been circulating in kentucky. but -- so mcconnell has to play bad cop here.
MSNBC
Nov 14, 2012 3:00am EST
john boehner has less support each day for a hard line approach. republican opposition to tax increases is slipping in congress. anti-tax lobbyist grover norquist no longer as a majority of supporters in either chamber. "the hill" says newly elected republicans refuse to sign the anti-tax pledge during the campaigns and another handful of returning republicans have disavowed their alliance to the written commitment. it's about time. at least they paid attention to the election. today bobby jindal scolded the entire party for the approach to the economy. hold it right there. this comment, he sewer sounds like a democrat. we've got to make sure that weren't the party of big business, big banks, big wall street bailouts, big corporate loophole, big anything. we cannot be, we must not be the party that simply protects the rich so they get to keep their toys. bobby, come on over to the good side, dude. you're talking like a conservative democrat. momentum is on the president's side. he just needs to know how motivated his allies are. the hard work didn't end last tuesday. democrats scored bi
MSNBC
Nov 13, 2012 9:00am EST
party with the white house? is it john boehner? >> i think the president is the only with one that can sign the agreement. john boehner needs to have an agreement that the house of representatives will pass, and i think whatever the two of them agree on will pass the senate. but expect it will be john boehner working along with the president. i'm sure mitch mcconnell will be very closely involved in the discussions with leader boehner. >> you don't believe a deal should come out of the senate and then be introduced in the house? >> well, i think the elections are over. we need to find solutions to help our country move forward in a positive direction and as the chairman of the joint chiefs of staffs says the biggest threat to our national security is actually our debt. we need to get this spending under control and get people back to work. >> i want to talk about this issue of taxes and tax rates and get you to respond to something from not exactly someone who is known as a liberal thinker here. take a listen. >> it won't kill the country if we raise tax as little bit on millionair
MSNBC
Nov 9, 2012 6:00am EST
democrats for some time to come. instead, we have the president winning re-election. we have john boehner returning to the speakership. harry reid returning. to being the senate majority leader. and while the status quo was the big winner last tuesday, the history books will not remember the names john boehner and harry reid as long as they will remember what this re-election meant for president barack obama. >> that's exactly right. it i it is an affirmation historically. you could argue that maybe one of the reasons he's crying is he's going to have to deal with john boehner and harry reid going forward. so there could be a very practical trigger there. but certainly, i mean, what mike and john have said is exactly right. it's an important moment. he's the third democrat, fourth democrat, to do this in a century. woodrow wilson, franklin roosevelt, bill clinton and barack obama. not bad company to be in. >> by the way, i heard you say that on wednesday morning. who was the democrat -- the last democrat before that to do it? >> well -- >> that's a test. >> -- that is a test. >> jackson? >> i guess
MSNBC
Nov 15, 2012 9:00am EST
37%? at 39%. the president's chief negotiating adversary right now, speaker john boehner who was re-elected by house republicans yesterday said they're not ready to accept the president's proposal because it would, quote, hurt our economy and make jobs more difficult. but he also sounded the kumbaya theme. >> now, i do think that the spirit of cooperation that you've seen over the last week, from myself and my team. from democrats across the aisle. from the president. have created an atmosphere where i think that, i remain optimistic. >> folks, there are a lot closer than sometime the bravadoish headlines seem to make clear. this is really about what can boehner take to 50 to 100 house republicans who are willing to temporarily potentially raise some tax rates on some group of wealthier americans? >>> by the way, after $6 billion spent on house senate and presidential campaign, not only did party control not change for the house, senate and white house. but the individual leaders who will begin the negotiations tomorrow, it's the exact group of people. there are some personnel chang
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